Comments on The Suicidal Zebra: PTR Build [9733] Changes: JoB Toned Down, SoB Tone...

@DorgolI've been thinking along the same lines, an...

2009-03-27T19:29:00.000Z

@Dorgol

I've been thinking along the same lines, and I'm starting to feel it's possible I haven't been giving the Blizz devs enough credit. I've been pretty firmly in the camp of hating SoB/tM and the recoil mechanic, and wishing it was gone.

But if the idea is to adjust ret paladin PvE damage without giving us too much burst in PvP, I'm starting to realize that SoB/tM makes a great knob to turn. We almost certainly won't use this ability in PvP (unless the risk/reward calculation just got too damn tempting, but I don't think that will happen), so the devs have much more room to improve our DPS by boosting it. The remaining issue to me becomes balancing the recoil/damage such that PvP paladins won't use it, but PvE paladins aren't burdening their healers. Which seems possible.

This will make having a swing timer that much more...

2009-03-27T18:43:00.000Z

This will make having a swing timer that much more important with the % of damage done my judgements shifting to auto attack.
are people still using quartz or is there a better or more class specific swing timer out there?
cheers,

Damn, they need to hotfix SotM before I can obtain...

2009-03-27T16:12:00.000Z

Damn, they need to hotfix SotM before I can obtain accurate testing...

ALSO: Very good point Dorgol, if SoB/tM didn't inflict recoil we'd have some pretty damned high damage in pvp.

"JoB recoil damage is still at 33%, but hopefully ...

2009-03-27T16:01:00.000Z

"JoB recoil damage is still at 33%, but hopefully won't be quite so much of an issue (still wondering what purpose it serves though...)."

I believe the purpose is to balance Paladin survivability with Paladin DPS in PvP. The recoil damage is mostly ignored in PvE, but in a competitive PvP encounter you do NOT want to inflict 3k damage to yourself while being attacked by 1 or 2 other players.

Very simply, the only portion of our damage affect...

2009-03-27T03:35:00.000Z

Very simply, the only portion of our damage affected by haste is our damage through weapon swings and the Seal procs from those weapon swings.

By nerfing JoB damage and increasing SoB damage you increase the amount of damage your (Weapon Swing + SoB Proc) do as a proportion of your total damage. Hence your Haste scales more of your total damage, and so Haste is indirectly buffed.

In addition, this patch directly improves the conversion of Haste Rating to Melee Haste % by 30%, to 25.22 Rating per 1% from the current 32.79.

Hope that helps.

thanks for the update. how did they boost haste?

2009-03-27T02:32:00.000Z

thanks for the update. how did they boost haste?

Makes all the haste gear useful again, pretty much...

2009-03-27T00:03:00.000Z

Makes all the haste gear useful again, pretty much like in the last days before Wrath.

The revert of Crusader Strike is disappointing, I was looking forward to it in its new state. I hope they'll still do something nice to it, as it's once again rather bland. Here's to hoping!

Very interesting, SZ. Probably an effort to give u...

2009-03-26T22:52:00.000Z

Very interesting, SZ. Probably an effort to give us more sustained DPS and less of a hellish firestorm of burst destruction.