tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post2184529771200763947..comments2023-08-11T16:05:56.176+01:00Comments on The Suicidal Zebra: Updated: Paladin Changes Due in 3.0.4.Suicidal Zebrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09209267053163631586noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-48218771889624948342008-11-26T18:40:00.000+00:002008-11-26T18:40:00.000+00:00Anonymous, if you level 70 with taht gear and losi...Anonymous, if you level 70 with taht gear and losing against a 60 pally with that gear, you should just delete your druid and go make a pally....<BR/><BR/>... on a PVE server.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03978498855206780938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-69144458648640452432008-11-26T15:30:00.000+00:002008-11-26T15:30:00.000+00:00Oy... too much divinity to keep track of - shield...Oy... too much divinity to keep track of - shields, protection, tasty desserts (it must be close to lunchtime to that to enter my mind). I just shudder at mechanics for which there is no (Mass Dispel aside) defense. Reverse the first burst nerf, and all is good - to me, at least.<BR/><BR/>And by the way - Righteous Command is full of win. Everyone should go to the Suggestions forum, and see if we can't get the abominable name "Hand of Judgement" can be /fixed.<BR/><BR/>Actually, another name just came to mind - Compulsion. You are using your Holy power to compel the mob to engage you. And you could macro it with "/yell The Power of Christ compels you!" for some party/raid-irritating fun! I need to go put this on MY (barely read) blog... /snickerHeywood Djiblomihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01424315448841746864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-11711752731706599182008-11-26T04:19:00.000+00:002008-11-26T04:19:00.000+00:00Just remove Paladins from the game. I love to PVP ...Just remove Paladins from the game. I love to PVP and my friend can completely anhilate me on his 60 Grand Marshall geared Paladin versus my 70 Vengeful/Brutal geared Druid. WTF? Whatever they do Paladins are not going to get the nerf they deserve. L2P a real class. Im not saying Druids don't have they're advantages over other classes, but come on. Ret Paladins just own everything. In 3 seconds tooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-58304149945633699542008-11-25T22:07:00.000+00:002008-11-25T22:07:00.000+00:00It's good to know, now we can remove my #1 and #3,...It's good to know, now we can remove my #1 and #3, though, we'll be missing #3 a lot, or at least for me ;)... especially vs Rogues. They can run so fast.., by the time we healed up, they're gone, healed up, come back for another round.<BR/><BR/>Not that i'm afraid of them but sometimes, they have stunlocks and i do'nt have trinket(EFH for human) and no bubble, can be tough.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03978498855206780938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-69008884584268332822008-11-25T17:37:00.000+00:002008-11-25T17:37:00.000+00:00Orgauth, but isn't it a nerf now that we can't use...Orgauth, but isn't it a nerf now that we can't use it as a finisher?<BR/><BR/>If i choose to use it offensively, i can't? that's a huge DPS nerf right there. That's all I'm saying.<BR/><BR/>It wasn't their intention in the first place but since they nerf the rest to go inline with other's dps, now they take this huge damage output away, it's pretty much another nerf on top of whatever they though the fair nerfs were.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03978498855206780938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-64352022365792378162008-11-25T16:37:00.000+00:002008-11-25T16:37:00.000+00:00Well, it's actually called Divine Shield, but you ...Well, it's actually called Divine <B>Shield</B>, but you point is well made.<BR/><BR/>That said, if an ability is defensive in nature it doesn't necessarily follow that it should only be used in a defensive situation. Rogues use CloS offensively in Arena all the time, as do Mages with Ice Block. Deathknights will no doubt also use Icebound Fortitude in a similar vein.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps if Paladins had better CC protection Bubble-wings (or just bubble) wouldn't be used, or need to be used, in this way.Suicidal Zebrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09209267053163631586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-74795688378387717662008-11-25T15:21:00.000+00:002008-11-25T15:21:00.000+00:00Vndead said... "#2, DPS in bubble will be much muc...Vndead said... "#2, DPS in bubble will be much much lower so we can't really use the bubble as finisher but can only be used for healing now."<BR/><BR/>This is NOT a personal attack, but a comment on the statement: I really had a "duh" moment there. It is, after all, Divine PROTECTION, not Divine PUNISHMENT. To derive "finisher" from something labeled as "protection" just does not compute in my brain.<BR/><BR/>It was intended to be an "Oh shit" defensive ability to enhance survivability, not a roflstomping offensive one. We took advantage of it with two instant attacks (three if you count Judgements?) that are not dependent on the swing timer (that was Blizzard's design fault, without foresight to see bubble abuse), and by doing so we perverted the intended function of the ability. "Bubblewings" with full damage output, even with the attack speed penalty, is stupidly overpowered. In my estimation, it is the only legitimate QQ that arose from 3.0.2 - complaints about up-front burst were not justified, given the multitude of other weaknesses of paladins in PvP (read: kiteability). Burst and mana regen should have been left alone - Bubblewings needed a nerf.Heywood Djiblomihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01424315448841746864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-9446681010032615582008-11-25T02:08:00.000+00:002008-11-25T02:08:00.000+00:00I agree Josh with you on HoP, and said much the sa...I agree Josh with you on HoP, and said much the same thing in my post on Forbearance late last month.<BR/><BR/>I believe that with a 50% reduction to damage output whilst under the effects of DS makes the risk of AW+DS null and void. Upping damage to 60(0.5*1.2)% of normal whilst under the effects of DS doesn't seem to be game-breaking (indeed, it would be a waste of AW, but that is for the Player to decide IMO).<BR/><BR/>Really Divine Protection + AW would be my only concern, and we can get creative to get around the need for a cooldown. As I suggested make DP reduce damage by 25% when a shield is not equipped, or perhaps make activating one cancel the other. Either way, I think AW and DP are the only two abilities which need to have a shared cooldown of any length if Blizzard are sensible in how they treat HoP and DS.Suicidal Zebrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09209267053163631586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-73362450849825074852008-11-25T01:31:00.000+00:002008-11-25T01:31:00.000+00:00this whole AW/DP/DS/HoP is a nerf rather than a fi...this whole AW/DP/DS/HoP is a nerf rather than a fix.<BR/><BR/>#1, we use AW, not only we're vulnerable but our ally is also somewhat vulnerable.<BR/><BR/>#2, DPS in bubble will be much much lower so we can't really use the bubble as finisher but can only be used for healing now.<BR/><BR/>#3, we can't bubble and HoP someone else either for 30 seconds. It was very useful to use HoP on someone else.<BR/><BR/>Blizz is messing us up more and more each of their "fix".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03978498855206780938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36814800.post-86639307448326022432008-11-25T00:34:00.000+00:002008-11-25T00:34:00.000+00:00I personally think that Hand of Protection should ...I personally think that Hand of Protection should function like Hand of Sacrifice - for use on other players only. In that case, the lockout on HoP wouldn't matter anyway.<BR/><BR/>I was an advocate of the 30 second lockout instead of wings-Forbearance. I don't have any better suggestions, otherwise I'd have advocated another idea. Unless they scrap everything and go back to the drawing board, I don't think we're going to see anything better coming down the pipeline.Shwitz44https://www.blogger.com/profile/12859042711928927792noreply@blogger.com